It's not hard to figure out. There are only a few post-docs that would be competitive for a Canadian politics position.
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I don't really see the point of withholding names. The new registration requirement on PSJR virtually rules out trashing other candidates.
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It is my understanding that T\the postdoc has another offer and they are rushing to start the interviews. And I can't believe the other two are ABDs given some of the APs who applied.
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Where at? Not many positions around. Thomas More?
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I doubt it. STM didn't shortlist any a-listers. Saskatchewan has a little inferiority complex, I think.
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So who is on this shortlist then? ABDs? Surely not their own...? Any inisght?
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^you screwed me again Pennypacker!
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Yes, some of their own are in the running.
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I hear the list is one insider, one outsider, and one person who interviewed there last year but didn't get an offer.
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So which one of these ^ took an offer elsewhere?
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See, Jerry? Sounds like you know who's on the list. And yes, two of the four (if you count the one who pulled out) were ABDs. Maybe that's what they wanted. Who knows. Also, being an AP doesn't necessarily mean that your publication or teaching record is better than an ABD. I mean, usually...but not necessarily.
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So who is the one that pulled out? Another Toronto ABD?
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Yep.
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So 2/4 are from their own dept? Nice.
^^^ This is true. Is it the case with this shortlist? I suppose APs are also generally a lot more expensive but I have no idea if such things matter.
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^^ What a joke.
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^ Sorry, kiddo, it's true. Ask anyone on the Search Committee. Oh wait, you probably didn't get shortlisted, so you can't...
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I have no doubt that it's true. What is surprising it that the department thinks that two of the top four Canadianists on the market right now are their own ABDs.
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Really? Who are recent UofT Canadianists who do solid research? and who supervised them?
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Wallner
Turgeon
Papillon
Bilodeau
ThompsonPosted 8 months ago # -
Any of those five ever published in a top ten journal?
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Any of those five ever published in a top ten journal?
Have you? How about you post your name and C.V.?
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No need to be defensive. Unless you're on the list.
It gets worse. In at least two of these cases, there are no peer-reviewed articles whatsoever. But lots of book chapters.
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Fair enough - what would be the top ten journals for Canadianists?
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Excellent question!...but I'm not sure of the answer. I know that as a recent grad getting a publication in the CJPS is looked upon favourably, but not as much as publishing in more specialized international journals. Without slagging the CJPS, it would be good to have a quality journal that focussed exclusively on Canadian politics.
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Yes, it is an excellent question. And I agree, I'm not sure of the answer either. I think it basically depends on who you want to speak to with your work. If you want to make a contribution to some general debate in political science using Canadian cases/data/whatever and your contribution is important enough, I think such work ought to be pitched at a general audience and that means the big journals (yes, APSR, AJPS, JOP, BJPS, QJPS etc etc). That's not to say that the CJPS is a bad journal but why would you want to publish work like that described above in a journal not read by most political scientists? But there's plenty of solid "Canadianist" work published in the CJPS, that speaks to particular debates in Canadian political science. It makes perfect sense for that work to be in the CJPS.
On the issue of this particular search at UofT, I do find it weird that they would choose to interview two of their own - one ABD, one a recent PhD. I'm sure UofT produces some decent scholars. The question here is: are the four people on the shortlist all better than the people who applied and didn't make the shortlist. In my opinion they are not. Again, I'm not saying these four, or even the two UofT candidates, are bad. My point is, they are not so obviously better than the rest to warrant interviewing your own.
As for the list of recent UofT grads provided by qanat, the relevant question is not really the one posed by JerryKing. The relevant question is: Are these the best in their respective subfields? I think the answer is: Not even close.
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