I got a response from a journal today that is slightly confusing. It was a reject, but they also said i could rework the piece and resubmit it. Does this count as a revise and resubmit or not?
rejected or revise and resubmit?
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Posted 3 years ago #
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Happened to me, too. I consider it a "redo and resubmit."
Posted 3 years ago # -
Sorry, but no. If I understand you correctly, this falls in the category of "reject and resubmit" (yes, I have heard that phrase with increasing frequency lately). That is, they would welcome another submission from you of a significantly revised, even perhaps rewritten, paper, but it would be treated as a new submission and go through the whole review process.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Chill agrees with IR Geek (both in the interpretation of your letter and the apparent frequency of such responses from editors).
The upside: the editor (or perhaps a reviewer that the editor really respects) saw some promise in the paper. The downside: you'll probably get a new draw of reviewers.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Yop agrees with Chill & IR Geek (but doesn't understand this thing about referring to one's self in the 3rd person). I recently got my first reject & resubmit, and declined the "opportunity." Basically, there's nothing in it for the author relative to submitting to a new journal. So if you're wedded to that particular journal, go for it. Otherwise, whatever.
Posted 3 years ago # -
To counter yop's position, by giving you a reject and resubmit, the editor shown a willingness to give you some chance here - despite the fact that the reviews are not necessarily positive. Yes - you will get another draw of reviewers if you resubmit it, but you'll probably get different reviewers at another journal anyways. At least at the original journal, you have some inkling that the editor sees promise here. If the revisions are at all do-able, then I would be inclined to try.
Posted 3 years ago # -
> there's nothing in it for the author relative to submitting to a new journal.
There is if you got a rej & r from the top journal you could possibly get published in. And don't discount slnoonanj's point -- the editor is tipping his/her hand a little by offering this. That said, I once had a rej & r at the APSR, changed the paper to make it much clearer and (I thought) better, resubmitted it, and got much weaker reviews on the revision than on the original (from a new reviewer panel, which is customary in rej & r). Paper eventually came out at another top 3 journal after some wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Anyone else have experience with this recently?
Posted 1 year ago # -
In my experience, your paper sucks.
Posted 1 year ago # -
^^ Yep, happened to me.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Is the following legal and ethical?
Submit to another journal and see what happens. If they're encouraging or mildly encouraging (R and R or conditional accept), you get to publish there. If they're discouraging, you make the revisions to the original and resubmit to the original journal.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Your paper is no longer in play at the first journal, so yes.
Posted 1 year ago # -
"Anyone else have experience with this recently?"
Yes, it happened to me very recently.
Posted 1 year ago # -
"Invited for de novo submission." The APSR does this every now and then.
Posted 1 year ago # -
I've just been through the same situation, but for me is very odd the fact that I received feedback just from one reviewer. Why hasn't the editor given me some feedback, because after all, his decision is crucial. He just said that the paper has some merit so he is looking forward for a re-submission. In the same time, the word 'reject' is so unfriendly that makes me work half-heartedly for a revision. Anyway, all in all, indeed reject and resubmit means that one has another shot for submitting a potentially article.
Posted 8 months ago # -
Would you recommend listing a reject and resubmit (de novo review) at APSR on your
CV if you're on market?Posted 8 months ago # -
...you mean on top of being a non-reviewer there as well.
Posted 8 months ago # -
^no that wasn't me. I saw a faculty member do this and was wondering if it's Ok for
ABD as wellPosted 8 months ago # -
^ No. This simply signals that it was rejected and that it is no longer under consideration. In my mind, this is worse that putting "under review," because we know it has already been turned down. Sure, someone may see a little promise in the paper and you may plan to resubmit it to the same journal, but you're telling us that it was already rejected once and people like me (ungenerous, perhaps) assume that will be the trend.
Posted 8 months ago # -
^ is for ^^^
Posted 8 months ago # -
What about Revise and Resubmits? Aside from changing your CV, should you inform schools you've already applied to? I mean, it's still not an outright acceptance.
Posted 8 months ago # -
I've had two reject & resubmits and I don't (yet) have tenure. In both cases I decided to shop the paper elsewhere.
Posted 8 months ago # -
What does a Reject and Resubmit signify when a journal does not have a Revise and Resubmit category, just a Reject and Resubmit one? Not kidding!
Posted 8 months ago # -
What about Revise and Resubmits? Aside from changing your CV, should you inform schools you've already applied to? I mean, it's still not an outright acceptance.
Since R&Rs tend to be accepted, getting one does signal something. Whether or not you should go to the trouble of informing schools to which you've already applied is a different question. I was in that position when I was on the market, and opted not to. The advice I got was that it would be conditional on where the R&R was. If you got an R&R at the AJPS or some other top journal, go ahead and send an e-mail along. Otherwise, it probably isn't worth it.
Posted 8 months ago # -
"Would you recommend listing a reject and resubmit (de novo review) at APSR on your
CV if you're on market? "Only if you think it's ok to list "in preparation for submission to the APSR" for a paper that hasn't been submitted yet. Because that's what this is. You're preparing to submit it, de novo, to APSR. Most people wouldn't write that their brand new paper is about to be submitted to the APSR, so the same goes here.
But if you're a person who writes where you intend to send a paper one day, then it makes sense to put this on your CV.
Posted 8 months ago #