How many of you are using R (instead of STATA, SPSS...), and why? Just interested what the standard is, and where it's going.
Thanks!
How many of you are using R (instead of STATA, SPSS...), and why?
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Posted 2 years ago #
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I use it so I can be condescending to people who use STATA.
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What is SPSS? Software Program for Stupid Scientists?
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^ software for market researchers.
I use R because that's what I was taught to use.
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R is free and my research budget is small.
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I think most people would agree that R has more options for making graphics and makes prettier graphics, although it often takes much more effort to make a graph in R vs STATA.
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^the ggplot2 package makes things a bit more easy, as well as giving you many more options for easily creating really cool graphics, as well as a general framework in which to think about graphics in the abstract.
But, whether you think R is more difficult to create graphics with or not, there's no doubt that it is capable of creating much much better graphics than STATA (or anything else) and it's really not even close.
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I use SAS more often.
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With the comments on the graphs, I actually do most of my stats work in STATA, and then do the graphs in R. STATA graphs are awful looking - R is much better for professional looking graphs. Find someone's code, cannibalize it to your own needs.
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People often reference better graphics but journals last five yrs mostly show same kinds of pics. So where are all these great graphics being printed?
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Look at recent issues of a journal like AJPS, which explicitly emphasizes graphics rather than tables. You'll see a lot of R stuff. Some of it looks similar to Stata, just cleaner. But most of it is just totally beyond Stata's capabilities.
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Seems like a heavy time investment for someone (not students learning first programming skills) several years in already proficient in STATA or SAS to generate cleaner version of same graphic. R has many more kinds of data viz options, but they don't seem to surface outside of teaching material, in our field anyhow.
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What part of "most of it is just totally beyond Stata's capabilities" did you not understand? It's *not* just a matter of making "cleaner version of same graphic", dumbass. Try doing rope-ladder plots in Stata. Hint: you can't.
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I don't know how I got tenure without knowing how to make a rope ladder plot. I'm going to tell my dean I am not worthy.
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yes, of course you are right (hence DrRight)R can do more. my view is that few actually use R to do much more than they could do in simpler programs. perhaps the real power in R's data viz is confined to class assignments at this point and the journal graphics will catch up in a few years.
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^ Are you retarded? Maybe just a little? If you don't understand that a facility with graphics can make your research much more accessible, then no, you aren't worthy of tenure. Now go back to clicking buttons in SPSS and sticking your dick in your floppy drive, grandpa.
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^ is for ^^^, obviously. But since you brought it up... "data viz"? WTF? Jesus **** christ, people...
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DrRight, I understand that being an anonymous **** on the internet is fun and all, but do you ever post anything useful?
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Problem with R is that nothing is uniform. When working with others, its easier to just use stata and replication files.
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^ Huh? I don't understand. You can write R programs and share them with your co-authors. It's not really any different than do-files, except that there's more programming involved. As long as everyone understands what the code is doing, R code is R code.
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What is "R"?
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DrRight, I understand that being an anonymous **** on the internet is fun and all, but do you ever post anything useful?
Really? **** or not, his/her posts are often some of the most useful on here. I guess it depends on what kind of info you find useful...
Posted 2 years ago # -
R stands for retarded. Edwin, you certainly excel in R.
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^ HAHA.
Cute.
but my question is serious. I don't know what "R" is. Does it have something to do with "LATEX"???
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Must be some kind of computer program.
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It's a deadly virus. Stay away from it.
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^^ Ya I figured that much out
I'm not stupid. Sounds like it's a computer program for performing statistical analyses.
What's the deal? Does it have any advantages over SPSS?
Posted 2 years ago # -
We are not stupid, either, Edwin. GTFO.
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^ What is GTFO? I don' know what that stands for.
Posted 2 years ago # -
It is really important for nearly all of the posters here not to use R.
Posted 2 years ago #