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Same data as last year. Total number of Ph.D.s employed at top 20 US News political science departments for the 2011-12 academic year, by school/department. Ph.D. from last five academic years (2007-2011) only.

Stanford 16
Harvard 12
Princeton 7
UCLA 7
Columbia 6
Michigan 4
Rochester 4
UC-Berkeley 4
Chicago 3
Duke 3
NYU 3
WashU 3
Yale 3
Caltech 2
Georgetown 2
Harvard (Public Policy) 2
MIT 2
UCSD 2
University of Washington 2
Carnegie Mellon (Statistics and Public Policy) 1
Cornell 1
Emory 1
Minnesota 1
MIT (Economics) 1
Northwestern 1
Ohio State 1
Stanford (GSB) 1
Stony Brook University 1
UC-Berkeley (Agricultural and Resource Economics) 1
UC-Berkeley (Economics) 1
UC-Davis 1
UNC 1
University of Pennsylvania 1
Virginia 1

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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Why would you post the same ranking from last year? Update it or shut the **** up

Posted 10 months ago #
Top 20
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Well obviously it's updated: 2007-2011 degrees, not 2006-2010. Compare to last year.

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anon
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ohhhhh dont STFU

Posted 10 months ago #
Cal blows
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Berkeley graduates 20 people per year, but can only manage 4 top placements. Tied with Rochester, who graduates about 4 people per year!

Posted 10 months ago #
moore
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confirms what we all know: the top 2 are in a league of their own when it comes to placement.

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anon
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Rochester haters, U MAD?

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anon
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The "Top 20" placement numbers are interesting, and relevant, but is it all that surprising that a school ranked 10 or 15 doesn't place many people in the Top 20? It doesn't necessarily mean that school doesn't have a good placement record. They might be placing lots of people in the Top 50 or so. So this is valuable, but other metrics could also be used on placement. For example, there are some schools that very consistently place people in middle ranked programs. Others that place a few people very well every year (the stars) but then completely fail to place the rest. And others that have strength across the board.

The list does reveal some surprises though -- like UCLA, which is clearing hitting above its weight range.

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nope
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really? just using my knowledge of the record at a couple of the schools above this is totally off.

Posted 10 months ago #
dazednconfused
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... with Yale, Chicago and UCSD punching below their weight.

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anon
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Chicago is punching above weight. MIT punching below weight

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anon
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"really? just using my knowledge of the record at a couple of the schools above this is totally off."

Show your work.

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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Anyone have time to do this ranking normed my # of graduate students on the market, on average, each year? I don't have time to do it but would like to see it.

Posted 10 months ago #
pad thai
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Um, the stat for Cornell is incorrect. Cornell has recent grads at Stanford, Yale and Northwestern. I don't know if Northwestern is USNews top 20 currently, but even if it's not, you've still miscounted.

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anon
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One of them started in 2012. That might be the problem. the data goes up to 2011 & Northwestern is #21.

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anon
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^ Relax. Read the post again. And follow the coding rules.

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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Great, Cornell trolls now.

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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What these numbers are telling us is that to find a job at a top 20 dept is VERY VERY difficult, with the top 5 depts taking almost 50% of the placement share.

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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OP: so what?

as if we didnt know Stanford and Harvard are tops, and the rest are about the same?

big deal

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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^ Another example that political scientists are myopic.

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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Would be interesting to see it added with top-20 policy school and law school/professional school jobs.

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anon
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"Would be interesting to see it added with top-20 policy school and law school/professional school jobs."

Sounds like a project. Hop to it.

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anon
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Cornell grads irate as fvck

Posted 10 months ago #
Dwayne Castro
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Georgetown is also fighting above its weight. It is one placement away from Yale but it is usually stereotyped as a school only for future government employees. Without seeing this list, most would just assume the number is zero.

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anon
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Where is Penn State?

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anon
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I would be interesting to compare this to PhDs in top 50 departments.

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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"^ Relax. Read the post again. And follow the coding rules."

To be fair, there are numbers. Cornell grads have a tough time with that.

Posted 10 months ago #
anon
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^^ you can do it!

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anon
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Top 6 here, we don't care about placements at Stony Brook or TAMU. Top 20 is what matters. Top 50 is for suckers.

Posted 10 months ago #
Dennis Castro
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^If you're from a top 6, and all you care about is placements in the top 20, then your school is probably not doing so well. Only 3 of the top 6 are living up the hype -- the other 3 are placing poorly given their ranking.

And given that the 3/6 that are placing well are actually all ranked in the top 1, I'd venture a guess that you would have said "top 1 here" instead of "top 6 here" if you were among the top 6 that actually places well. So I can only concluded that you are a clueless nitwit from Berkeley, Yale, or Michigan, and therefore you should be embarrassed of your placement, not bragging. Get your shlt together YMB.

Stay off my sugar fields!

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